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- GEnie Space and Science Roundtable Science RTC May 30, 1993
-
- Guest: Lowell Whiteside
- NOAA/National Geophysical Data Center
- 325 Broadway
- Boulder, CO 80303-3328
- Internet: lwhiteside@luna.ngdc.noaa.gov
- Tel.: (303) 497-6215
-
- Files of related interest in the Space and Science library:
- No. Name Description Size
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- 3107 FLARE-EQ.ZIP Lowell Whiteside's TIF-format graphs 246656
- re: solar flare/earthquake connection
- 967 FLARE.GIF GIF pictures of a solar flare 20160
- 968 FLARE2.GIF GIF pics of a solar flare #2 31500
- 1547 SOLAREXP.ZIP Explanation of solar reports in RT 85680
- 2780 EBEL.RTC New England Earthquakes? You bet! 12160
- 2255 EQ-1990.TXT Significant Earthquakes, 1990 26752
- 2256 EQ-1991.TXT Significant earthquakes, 1991 29056
- 2776 EQ-1992.TXT Significant quakes, 1992 29440
- 3084 EQ-1992.ZIP Earthquake Bulletins, 1992 (archive) 121216
- 2254 EQ-STATS.TXT Earthquake statistics from the NEIC 12416
- 2222 MERCALLI.TXT Desc. of Mercalli earthquake scale 5504
- 2050 QUAKES.TXT Two brief articles on earthquakes 10240
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> Lowell Whiteside has worked in graduate programs in
- geology, geochemistry, and geophysics at the University of
- Nebraska, Georgia Institute of Technology, Oswego State University
- of New York, and the University of Colorado. He has worked for the
- past five years with CIRES (Cooperative Institute for Research in
- Earth Sciences) and NOAA at the National Geophysical Data Center,
- where he's seismologist in charge of the World Data Center
- Earthquake Database. Part of these duties include the analysis of
- earthquake patterns in global catalogs.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> His interest in solar triggering of seismic events
- stems from a natural curiosity of the relation between earthquakes
- and other natural phenomena, and he's worked on this problem for
- about 15 years. He has written several papers on the subjects of
- solar triggering of earthquake activity and/or electromagnetic
- phenomena associated with earthquakes, and believes on the basis of
- this research that a case can be made that solar flares do trigger
- earthquakes under specific circumstances.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> First, thanks for coming! Second, can you bring us
- quickly up to speed on some of the history of the idea that solar
- flares may influence geophysical events?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Sure. When earthquake catalogs were first
- produced, it became obvious that there were cycles in them.
- Fourier analysis of these catalogs has shown a number of periodicities.
- In many regional and global catalogs, there appeared 1-, 11-, 22-, 56-
- and 88-year cycles which corresponded to cycles related to the Sun.
- Many matched those of the Sun's magnetic variations. The chief periods,
- often 11 years (or multiples thereof) were immediately related to the
- solar period. Explanations for the relation have been put forward
- ranging from interaction with solar flares (through weather
- patterns) to generation of electrical currents in the crust
- (induced from the ring currents in the atmosphere).
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> You've found evidence for connections where?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The most obvious relation I have found
- between solar flares and subsequent earthquakes is in Ethiopia
- and Baja, California. In Ethiopia there is a very predictable 4
- day 12 hour lag time between large solar flares and subsequent
- earthquakes. In Baja California, the same lag time occurs,
- leading to a mistaken impression that earthquake in Ethiopia leads
- to quakes in Baja, or vice versa.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> In Ethiopia or Baja, is there often an earthquake
- following a solar flare?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> There is a sizable quake (M > 5) in Ethiopia
- following major solar flares about 90 percent of the time. This
- relationship is especially obvious during the last solar maximum
- (1987-1993). Here "major flare" is usually considered an X-type flare.
- The catalog for Baja is very crowded with quakes, so a high-magnitude
- cut must be made to see the relation.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Wow, 90 percent? Surprising. I'm not familiar with
- the classification of flares. Also, at what magnitude must you cut
- the Baja catalog in order to see the relation?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> In terms of flare classification, X are
- the most energetic, M and C are next. Flares are also classified
- by importance on a scale from 1 to 4 (4 is the largest). A
- magnitude cut at MB = 5 is appropriate for Baja.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> What is MB?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> MB is what is usually referred to as the
- Richter magnitude. It is actually the body-wave magnitude.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Are there other places that show anywhere near as
- strong a correlation of flares to quakes?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Al, yes, there are. I did a study
- of locations which have a statistically significant relation with
- flares and earthquakes. The highest correlations occur within
- about 5 degrees of the magnetic equator and at the areas within
- about 2000 miles of the magnetic poles.
-
- <[Dave] SPACE> Is this suggestive of a mechanism?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Ethiopia runs directly below the magnetic
- equator. This correlation suggests that currents set up by
- induction in the earth may responsible for this behavior. Earth
- currents are also powerful near the magnetic poles.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Roughly how many events show this correlation?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The most obvious correlation in Ethiopia
- has occurred since the beginning of the last solar maximum (in
- 1988). In this time period, 10 out of 12 major flares have
- corresponded with earthquakes of magnitude > 5.6 in the African Rift
- valley.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> OK, so what are the proposed mechanisms?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The most logical mechanism is that as the
- flare interacts with the earth's magnetosphere, it produces ring
- currents in the ionosphere (this is known). These currents, in
- turn, induce electrical currents in the earth. The electrical
- currents run up against faults. Many faults mark the junction of a
- change between low and high electrical resistance. This means they
- can act as capacitors. Laboratory research shows that electricity
- added to slipping systems can change the frictional coefficients
- and promote sliding. Electrical heating at the fault due to the
- differences in electrical properties on the two sides of the faults
- is perhaps the main effect which could promote the generation of
- earthquakes.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Roughly how much current/charge (per unit
- area/volume?) are we talking about?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> In 1989 (October 19) a major solar flare
- caused power outages in Canada by the induced currents generated
- in underground cables. This has happened on several occasions.
- The size of these currents can reach about 9 volts.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Ah, substantial, then. This is typical of large
- flares?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Yes.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> Yes, the electrical effects of flares in long
- conductors is well established.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Other, less logical mechanisms?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> A second mechanism for the production of
- earthquakes in the area of Ethiopia is heating of the interior due
- to these currents. The Ohmic heating due to one flare-induced
- current may change the temperature of magmas in the upper level
- (just below the surface) by about 1 - 2 degrees C depending on the
- conductivity and resistivity of the rocks. This is sufficient to
- cause doming, which has been observed by sensitive tiltmeters in
- the area. The doming itself will cause faults to open up and less
- normal friction to exist, promoting the earthquakes through the
- Coulomb failure criterion. This may be why this effect is most
- obvious in areas like Ethiopia (the Afar hotspot) and Baja (the
- Baja hotspot).
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Are there data on the conductivity (vs.
- frequency?) of these geologic areas (Baja and Ethiopia)?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> There is data on the conductivity of these
- areas. Unfortunately, it is not good, since it must be
- extrapolated from depth. In general, in the westward side of
- the San Andreas there is good conductivity, on the eastward side
- poor conductivity.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Is there a lot of quake activity in Ethiopia (as
- there is on the west coast of the Americas)?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> No, in fact Ethiopia shows a clear 11-year
- cycle, with major quakes occurring at the peak of the solar maximum
- every 11 years. Larger quakes do not occur in the intervening time
- (quakes of magnitude 4 and below are associated with the motion of
- magmas). But tectonic quakes are not common in the region, certainly
- not as common as in Baja.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Is there anyone saying that your conclusions are
- in error?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> There is a great deal of controversy in
- this subject. American scientists have long contended that quakes
- cannot be triggered by something as small as is postulated here.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> You've mentioned to me that the Soviets were more
- willing to look at this.
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> But after the Landers quake in southern
- California last summer (M 7.5), which caused earthquakes to occur
- throughout the United States, this opinion has rapidly changed.
- The Soviets and Chinese are very interested in this subject.
- They are more interested in how the weather is related to solar
- flares, and how this in turn affects earthquakes.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> What are the Americans' proposed explanations of
- the data (especially, in Ethiopia)?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The Americans, as I have said, have not
- generally taken the solar-earthquake connection very seriously.
- But recent explanations are a wind effect pushing against the
- mountains or a relation between planetary positions, solar flares,
- and gravitational influences on the Earth. This was largely
- discounted because several people have not backed up their theories
- with good data. The data and conclusions on Ethiopia have
- not yet been published, so little feedback is yet available here.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> In some of the material you sent me, you mentioned
- some effects of flares on Earth's rotation rate. Could you
- elaborate on those ideas?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Flares can affect the Earth's rotation rate
- in two ways. First, by the influence between the ionospheric
- currents and weather patterns. The weather patterns (winds) are
- changed at high levels immediately after solar flare interaction.
- This can been seen in the radiosonde pattern above the Himalayas,
- which shows stronger winds occurring about a day after large solar
- flares. These winds push on continental masses and cause stresses
- which can be relieved by earthquakes.
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The second method is the generation of
- eddy currents in the Earth due to the magnetic field variations.
- These can speed the Earth up or down depending on their size and
- direction.
-
- <F.CONDON> Is the frequency of the currents around 3 Hertz?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The frequency is around 3 hertz but is
- quite variable.
-
- <F.CONDON> Would there be a decrease in amplitude prior to a
- seismic event? Could this signal decrease occur 5 to 24 hours
- before an earthquake?
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> What is important about 3 Hz? A characteristic
- frequency of something?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The frequency of 3 Hz is a frequency often
- associated with magnetic changes which have been observed prior
- to earthquakes in Taiwan, China, Japan, and the West Coast of the
- United States. It is also a frequency common to the induced
- currents.
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Condon's questions: The signal would have
- a temporal variation. Immediately after the solar flare
- interacts with the Earth, it would induce the current. This
- current would then interact with a fault. There will be a time
- during which the electrical energy interacts with the fault zone
- to decrease the normal friction before the quake occurs -- 5 to
- 24 hours is reasonable.
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Are the winds generated by flare interaction
- generally in some particular direction or are they just stronger
- in whatever direction?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The winds generated by flares are
- stronger in a particular direction (towards the West) in the
- Himalayan data I have studied. For other areas this may not be the
- case.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> What is needed to confirm if these things are
- really important determiners of fault activity?
-
- <F.CONDON> Would it be possible to see the signal decrease with a
- increase in the water table level (ballast)?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> The effects cited above are small compared
- with the overall environmental noise. It is possible that flares
- induce free earth oscillations which could be seen in water level
- changes, but this would be a difficult thing to see. The electrical
- effect of flares on faults can be studied in more detail by sensitive
- instruments (measuring telluric currents) near the faults, and
- measuring any increase in electrical current on the opposing sides
- of the fault. By the way, in Russia in the 1960's, there was a
- power plant which grounded its electrical energy on a daily
- basis. It was noticed that a fault about 100 miles distant always
- had an earthquake immediately after the grounding. As for other
- effects, theoretically they should behave as outlined here. Changes
- in the Earth's magnetic field could not be monitored, however,
- since these changes may have lag times of months to years after the
- flare occurs.
-
- <[Dave] SPACE> >Always<...as in...always? Every time??
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Dave, the poorly translated Russian article
- I read suggested that the fault was a perfect indicator of
- grounding at the power plant during the 6-month study period.
-
- <[Dave] SPACE> Very interesting! Kind of a neat effect....
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> The quakes were rather small, though, 3-4 MB?
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Frank, yes, the magnitudes were small (M
- 3-4).
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> By the way, I should note, that any theory
- should be backed up with predictive ability. In the case of the
- Ethiopian quakes, I sent the material to Frank in February. Since I
- was looking at it, I was able to give a 2-day warning of a series
- of quakes between March 11 - 20 1993 (which occurred 4 days 12 hours
- after the first major flare since September 1992). Of the five largest
- flares to occur in this series, all were followed by quakes in the Red
- Sea with a time lag of 4 day 12 hr +/- 3 hours. The flares cited
- were of importance II and III and occurred from March 6, to March 15
- 1993.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> And of course the Red Sea _is_ the northern part of
- the East African Rift... :)
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Yes. In fact this was the first major
- activity in the Red Sea since March 30, 1969, following another
- large burst of solar activity.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> Any more questions for our guest?
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> None here. Sounds fairly convincing.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> Well, in that case, I'd like to thank you all for
- coming, and thanks Lowell for wearing his fingers to the bone!
-
- <[Al] A.CHOU1> Thanks very much, Lowell!
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> I really enjoyed answering your questions,
- maybe we could do this again on another aspect of earthquake
- triggering?
-
- <F.CONDON> Yes, thanks Lowell...
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> I'll send you a copy of the transcript, if you
- like.
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Yes, please, If you need anything more
- from me, Frank, let me know.
-
- <ODY> Nice to "meet" you, by the way, Lowell.
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> Good to meet you to, ODY.
-
- <FRANK.REDDY> Will do. If there's any breaking predictions you
- feel like sharing, please feel free to write me!
-
- <[lowell] SPACE.GUEST> I sure will. Keep in touch.